Based on the Mozilla updater code an automatic updater has been under development for the LibreOffice project for quite some time. Based on the experiences with the crash reporter the need for an automatic updater has been shown to be a serious problem for the project. The talk will show the current approach used in the automatic updater code, open challenges and how this allows to rethink the installation and packaging experience. Based on the prototype server the talk will also show how the server can be used to generate am estimation for active daily users (ADU) and how the information about the number of ADU can be used to enhance other services.